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The US Schools with their own Police
More and more US schools have police patrolling the corridors. Pupils are being arrested for throwing paper planes and failing to pick up crumbs from the canteen floor. Why is the state criminalising normal childhood behaviour?
by Chris McGreal

The charge on the police docket was "disrupting class". But that's not how 12-year-old Sarah Bustamantes saw her arrest for spraying two bursts of perfume on her neck in class because other children were bullying her with taunts of "you smell".

"I'm weird. Other kids don't like me," said Sarah, who has been diagnosed with attention-deficit and bipolar disorders and who is conscious of being overweight. "They were saying a lot of rude things to me. Just picking on me. So I sprayed myself with perfume. Then they said: 'Put that away, that's the most terrible smell I've ever smelled.' Then the teacher called the police."

The policeman didn't have far to come. He patrols the corridors of Sarah's school, Fulmore Middle in Austin, Texas. Like hundreds of schools in the state, and across large parts of the rest of the US, Fulmore Middle has its own police force with officers in uniform who carry guns to keep order in the canteens, playgrounds and lessons. Sarah was taken from class, charged with a criminal misdemeanour and ordered to appear in court.

Each day, hundreds of schoolchildren appear before courts in Texas charged with offences such as swearing, misbehaving on the school bus or getting in to a punch-up in the playground. Children have been arrested for possessing cigarettes, wearing "inappropriate" clothes and being late for school.

In 2010, the police gave close to 300,000 "Class C misdemeanour" tickets to children as young as six in Texas for offences in and out of school, which result in fines, community service and even prison time. What was once handled with a telling-off by the teacher or a call to parents can now result in arrest and a record that may cost a young person a place in college or a job years later.

"We've taken childhood behaviour and made it criminal," said Kady Simpkins, a lawyer who represented Sarah Bustamantes. "They're kids. Disruption of class? Every time I look at this law I think: good lord, I never would have made it in school in the US. I grew up in Australia and it's just rowdy there. I don't know how these kids do it, how they go to school every day without breaking these laws."

The British government is studying the American experience in dealing with gangs, unruly young people and juvenile justice in the wake of the riots in England. The UK's justice minister, Crispin Blunt, visited Texas last September to study juvenile courts and prisons, youth gangs and police outreach in schools, among other things. But his trip came at a time when Texas is reassessing its own reaction to fears of feral youth that critics say has created a "school-to-prison pipeline". The Texas supreme court chief justice, Wallace Jefferson, has warned that "charging kids with criminal offences for low-level behavioural issues" is helping to drive many of them to a life in jail.

The Texas state legislature last year changed the law to stop the issuing of tickets to 10- and 11-year-olds over classroom behaviour. (In the state, the age of criminal responsibility is 10.) But a broader bill to end the practice entirely – championed by a state senator, John Whitmire, who called the system "ridiculous" – failed to pass and cannot be considered again for another two years.

Even the federal government has waded in, with the US attorney general, Eric Holder, saying of criminal citations being used to maintain discipline in schools: "That is something that clearly has to stop."

As almost every parent of a child drawn in to the legal labyrinth by school policing observes, it wasn't this way when they were young.

The emphasis on law and order in the classroom parallels more than two decades of rapid expansion of all areas of policing in Texas in response to misplaced fears across the US in the 1980s of a looming crime wave stoked by the crack epidemic, alarmist academic studies and the media.

"It's very much tied in with some of the hyperbole around the rise in juvenile crime rate that took place back in the early 90s," said Deborah Fowler, deputy director of Texas Appleseed, an Austin legal rights group, and principal author of a 200-page study of the consequences of policing in Texas schools. "They ushered in tough, punitive policies. It was all part of the tough-on-crime movement."

Part of that included the passing of laws that made the US the only developed country to lock up children as young as 13 for life without the possibility of parole, often as accomplices to murders committed by an adult.

As the hand of law and order grew heavier across Texas, its grip also tightened on schools. The number of school districts in the state with police departments has risen more than 20-fold over the past two decades.

"Zero tolerance started out as a term that was used in combating drug trafficking and it became a term that is now used widely when you're referring to some very punitive school discipline measures. Those two policy worlds became conflated with each other," said Fowler.

In the midst of that drive came the 1999 Columbine high school massacre, in which two students in Colorado shot dead 12 other pupils and a teacher before killing themselves. Parents clamoured for someone to protect their children and police in schools seemed to many to be the answer.

But most schools do not face any serious threat of violence and police officers patrolling the corridors and canteens are largely confronted with little more than boisterous or disrespectful childhood behaviour.

"What we see often is a real overreaction to behaviour that others would generally think of as just childish misbehaviour rather than law breaking," said Fowler. Tickets are most frequently issued by school police for "disruption of class", which can mean causing problems during lessons but is also defined as disruptive behaviour within 500ft (150 metres) of school property such as shouting, which is classified as "making an unreasonable noise".

Among the more extreme cases documented by Appleseed is of a teacher who had a pupil arrested after the child responded to a question as to where a word could be found in a text by saying: "In your culo (arse)", making the other children laugh. Another pupil was arrested for throwing paper aeroplanes.

Students are also regularly fined for "disorderly behaviour", which includes playground scraps not serious enough to warrant an assault charge or for swearing or an offensive gesture. One teenage student was arrested and sent to court in Houston after he and his girlfriend poured milk on each other after they broke up. Nearly one third of tickets involve drugs or alcohol. Although a relatively high number of tickets – up to 20% in some school districts – involve charges over the use of weapons, mostly the weapons used were fists.

The very young are not spared. According to Appleseed, Texas records show more than 1,000 tickets were issued to primary schoolchildren over the past six years (although these have no legal force at that age). Appleseed said that "several districts ticketed a six-year-old at least once in the last five years".

Fines run up to $500. For poorer parents, the cost can be crippling. Some parents and students ignore the financial penalty, but that can have consequences years down the road. Schoolchildren with outstanding fines are regularly jailed in an adult prison for non-payment once they turn 17. Stumping up the fine is not an end to the offending student's problems either. A class-C misdemeanour is a criminal offence.

"Once you pay it, that's a guilty plea and that's on your record," said Simpkins. "In the US we have these astronomical college and university expenses and you go to fill out the application to get your federal aid for that and it says have you ever been arrested. And there you are, no aid."

In Austin, about 3% of the school district's 80,000 pupils were given criminal citations in the 2007/8 school year, the last date for which figures are available. But the chances of a teenager receiving a ticket in any given year are much higher than that because citations are generally issued to high-school pupils, not those in kindergarten or primary school.

The result, says the Appleseed report, is that "school-to-prison pipeline" in which a high proportion of children who receive tickets and end up in front of a court are arrested time and again because they are then marked out as troublemakers or find their future blighted by a criminal record.

From her perch on the bench in an Austin courtroom, Judge Jeanne Meurer has spent close on 30 years dealing with children hauled up for infractions, some serious, others minor. Some of the difficulties faced by teachers can be seen as Meurer decides whether a parade of children should be released to await trial or held in custody. Meurer switches between motherly and intimidating depending on what she makes of the child before her.

"Some of them are rough kids," she said. "I've been on the bench 30 years and you used to never have a child cuss you out like you do now. I appreciate the frustrations that adults have in dealing with children who seem to have no manners or respect. But these are our future. Shouldn't we find a tool to change that dynamic versus just arresting them in school and coming down with the hard criminal justice hammer?"

Many of those who appear in front of Meurer have learning problems. Children with disabilities are particularly vulnerable to the consequences of police in schools. Simpkins describes the case of a boy with attention deficit disorder who as a 12-year-old tipped a desk over in class in a rage. He was charged with threatening behaviour and sent to a juvenile prison where he was required to earn his release by meeting certain educational and behavioural standards.

"But he can't," she said. "Because of that he is turning 18 within the juvenile justice system for something that happened when he was 12. It's a real trap. A lot of these kids do have disabilities and that's how they end up there and can't get out. Instead of dealing with it within school system like we used to, we have these school police, they come in and it escalates from there."

Sometimes that escalation involves force. "We had one young man with an IQ well below 70 who was pepper-sprayed in the hallway because he didn't understand what the police were saying," said Simpkins. "After they pepper-sprayed him he started swinging his arms around in pain and he hit one of the police officers – it's on video, his eyes were shut – and they charged him with assault of a public servant. He was 16. He was charged with two counts of assault of a public servant and he is still awaiting trial. He could end up in prison."

Austin's school police department is well armed with officers carrying guns and pepper spray, and with dog units on call for sniffing out drugs and explosives.

According to the department's records, officers used force in schools more than 400 times in the five years to 2008, including incidents in which pepper spray was fired to break up a food fight in a canteen and guns were drawn on lippy students.

In recent months the questionable use of force has included the tasering of a 16-year-old boy at a high school in Seguin, Texas, after "he refused to cooperate" when asked why he wasn't wearing his school identification tag. He then used "abusive language". The police said that when an officer tried to arrest the boy, he attempted to bite the policeman. The youth was charged with resisting arrest and criminal trespass even though the school acknowledges he is a student and was legitimately on the grounds.

Such cases are not limited to Texas. In one notorious instance in California, a school security officer broke the arm of a girl he was arresting for failing to clear up crumbs after dropping cake in the school canteen. In another incident, University of Florida campus police tasered a student for pressing Senator John Kerry with an awkward question at a debate after he had been told to shut up.

Sometimes the force is deadly. Last week, Texas police were accused of overreacting in shooting dead a 15-year-old student, Jaime Gonzalez, at a school in Brownsville after he pointed an air gun, which resembled a real pistol, at them outside the principal's office. The boy's father, also called Jaime, said the police were too quick to shoot to kill when they could have wounded him or used another means to arrest him. "If they would have tased him all this wouldn't have happened," he told the Brownsville Herald. "Like people say there's been stand-offs with people that have hostages for hours … But here, they didn't even give I don't think five minutes. No negotiating." The police say Gonzalez defied orders to put the gun down.

Meurer says she is not against police in schools but questions whether officers should regard patrolling the playground the same way they go about addressing crime on the streets.

"When you start going overboard and using laws to control non-illegal behaviour – I mean if any adult did it it's not going to be a violation – that's where we start seeing a problem," she says. "You've gradually seen this morphing from schools taking care of their own environments to the police and security personnel, and all of a sudden it just became more and more that we were relying on law enforcement to control everyday behaviour."

Chief Brian Allen, head of the school police department for the Aldine district and president of the Texas school police chiefs' association, is having none of it.

"There's quite a substantial number of students that break the law. In Texas and in the US, if you're issued a ticket, it's not automatically that you're found guilty. You have an opportunity to go before the judge and plead your case. If you're a teacher and a kid that's twice as big as you comes up and hits you right in the face, what are you going to do? Are you going to use your skills that they taught you or are you going to call a police officer?"

But Allen concedes that the vast majority of incidents in which the police become involved are for offences that regarded as little more than misbehaviour elsewhere.

"Just like anything else, sometimes mistakes are made." he said. "Each circumstance is different and there's no set guideline. There's also something called officer discretion. If you take five auto mechanics and ask them to diagnose the problem of a vehicle, you'll come up with five different solutions. If you ask five different doctors to diagnose a patient, a lot of times you'll have five different diagnoses. Conversely, if you ask five different police officers if they would write a ticket or not for the same offence, you possibly have five different answers."

Parents who have been sucked into the system, such as Jennifer Rambo, the mother of Sarah Bustamantes, wonder what happened to teachers taking responsibility for school discipline.

"I was very upset at the teacher because the teacher could have just stopped it. She could have said: OK class, that's enough. She could have asked Sarah for her perfume and told her that's inappropriate, don't do that in class. But she did none of that. She called the police," she says.

Politicians and civil liberties groups have raised the same question, asking if schools are not using the police to shift responsibility, and accountability, for discipline.

"Teachers rely on the police to enforce discipline," says Simpkins. "Part of it is that they're not accountable. They're not going to get into trouble for it. The parent can't come in and yell at them. They say: it's not us, it's the police."

That view is not shared by an Austin teacher who declined to be named because he said he did not want to stigmatise the children in his class.

"There's this illusion that it's just a few kids acting up; kids being kids. This is not the 50s. Too many parents today don't control their children. Their fathers aren't around. They're in gangs. They come in to the classroom and they have no respect, no self-discipline. They're doing badly, they don't want to learn, they just want to disrupt. They can be very threatening," he says. "The police get called because that way the teacher can go on with teaching instead of wasting half the class dealing with one child, and it sends a message to the other kids."

The Texas State Teachers Association, the state's main teachers union, did not take a position on ticketing at the recent debate in the legislature over Whitmire's proposal to scrap it. But the association's Clay Robison says that most teachers welcome the presence of police in schools.

"Obviously it looks as if some police officers are overreacting at some schools. I'm a parent and I wouldn't want my 17-year-old son hauled in to court if he and another student got in to an argument in a cafeteria. Police officers need to exercise a little bit of common sense but the police are what they are. They enforce the law," he says. "At the same time, years ago, at a school in one of the better neighbourhoods of Austin, a teacher was shot to death in his classroom. It's still a very rare occurrence but it does happen. Anything that increases the security of the teacher is good so they don't have to worry about personal safety and they can concentrate on teaching the kids. We get complaints from some teachers that the police aren't aggressive enough at moving against some of the older juveniles, those that they feel actually do pose a danger to the teachers or the other students."

Because of Sarah Bustamentes's mental disorders, a disability rights group took up her case and after months of legal battles prosecutors dropped the charges. Ask her how she feels about police in schools after her experience and she's equivocal.

"We need police in school. In my school it can get physical and it can turn out very bad," she says. "But they should stop issuing tickets. Only for physical stuff or bullying. Not what you do in class

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  1. Personally, I don't care about, and highly dislike all police. This artical just made me not like them more. This is just a reflection of what so many African Americans been saying for years. Police simply have nothing else to do. Police have been arresting people for ignorant things, that are really not that serious, and not incriminating. This is what the black community have been complaining about, but when the tables turn, "This is ridiculous..." Im not saying, everyone who gets arrested did not do something wrong, but a lot of times people get arrested for simply cursing, I thought we had a freedom of speech. People get arrested for congrigating for a cause, I thought we had freedom of assembly. These police want to arrest children for throwing paper planes, cursing, and having cigarettes, but they don't want to arrest the bullies, the kids who pick on someone so bad that it drives them to the edge of insanity. Police officers choose who they want to arrest, and the government is allowing them to do so. I think this should go on for a couple more years, so people can understand what African Americans been complaining about for so long now.

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    3. I deleted the first post because the first post had bad grammar and made no sense at all... The one above is the same as what I had written before just more grammatically accurate. ;-P

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    4. Dear Nautica,
      What you had to say was, interesting. I’m not quite sure I agree with everything you had to say, but I appreciate your perspective.
      To play the devil’s advocate (please don’t take offense, I’m just raising another point). Could it be the government playing the larger role in how far the police act? Do you think that someone of them are just doing there job because they can’t argue against the law they’re enforcing? I’m not saying that what the police are doing are right either way, but I certainly believe the government plays a BIG role in all of this.
      I’m not African American, so I can’t truly understand the perspective of people who have feel targeted by the police’s racial prejudice. In all of this I can’t fairly argue that what you said doesn’t happen. Quite honestly, I also believe this occurs (just maybe not as widely as we might think). It would be interesting to hear what you think about other police of different races, say Latino, Asian, or African American police. Do other races profile Caucasian people or even their own race, in levels that are equivalent to Caucasian on Colored police profiling?
      I do believe that there are good-hearted police officers out there! I’m sad to hear you hate all of them, but I respect how you feel. As much trouble police might cause, I would like to think having them (in our society) does more good than harm.

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    5. I'm glad you're interested in how I feel about other race police officers. As I stated in my first sentence, "Personally, I don't care about, and highly dislike ALL police." Especially black police officers, I havent come in contact with too many asain, or latino police officers. Black police officers don't give any breaks and they shouldn't but I personally feel as if they try the hardest to incriminate people over the dummest things, just to get accepted (like the black sheep, trying to blend into all the rest of the white sheep). I don't care for too many black people in power period, because of their "bougieness" towards others, especially towards other blacks. When you're black, and you make it (in any profession) you look down on the rest of your race until they reach your success, in my opinion of course. There might very well be good-hearted police officers, but most of the ones where I live, are ignorant, very disrespectful, and dont deserve any kind of respect. They may be doing their job, but there is doing your job, and then theres "Doing your job" some police officers cross the line, and until you experience it, you will never understand.

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    6. It might be better having them, than not having them, but I'd rather handle my own problems, before I call the police, and that is not good. When the police change their ways then I will change my opinion.

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  2. Jaquana says:
    I believe that this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard in my life. To arrest children for a thing such as spraying perfume is exceptionally uncalled for. When 12 year old Sarah Bustamantes sprayed perfume on herself she was just trying to stop getting teased. Her classmates were more of a disruption when they were teasing her. Did all of them get a police docket for disrupting class also? She is mentally unstable and self- conscious she didn't deserve that. I commend the disability rights group that got the charges dropped. Why not give the kids a detention, or Saturday school for doing things such as littering, cursing and etc.? Arresting, fining, and giving jail time is exceedingly extreme for these kids. Who would want to go to school when you can get arrested for dropping a crumb on the ground? Not me. I come to school to get an education not trouble with the law. By passing out these tickets they are hindering the child's future. If a student gets a ticket and they can't pay, jail at 17 years old is unnecessary. You are taking time off of their education. It just makes me more convinced that the government is “money hungry". They will do anything to make money even if that includes arresting a 10 year old for throwing a paper plane. That is despicable and it really disgusts me. Police need to catch people who kill, and break the law. Not children who curse and break the rules. In society today there is a murder about every day. How about these officers being put to use to catch their killers?

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    1. I agree with everything you are saying. I never thought about the real fact that the kids that are teasing this 12 year old girl are more at fault than the girl who was spraying the perfume in class. Time taken from a child's education should be more important than trying to taken a child to jail for everything they do in school. None of this is even necessary. I totally agree that the police need to spend more time catching the people who do the real crimes and focus on keeping children in school instead of trying to arrest students for harmless crimes.

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  3. Tatiana Williams

    When we are referring to children in the school setting there are other criteria and characteristics that ought to be considered in the execution of discipline. First, if the idea is to ensure the safety of both the students and the teachers then the police should focus on infractions that are threatening, harmful or violent and not minor violations or behavioral issues that can be handled by the teacher, seeing how the age, maturity levels, self-control, and disabilities of the students have effect on their behavior. Also when addressing these issues there must be safety precautions taken on behalf of the police, it makes no sense to me personally for a student to be severely injured or even killed for any of the issues given in McGreal’s article, the only time that I may condone violence to protect the safety of the other people is if the person is an immediate threat with a weapon. We can look at incidents like the Columbine shootings to explain why police are resourceful to have on school grounds but they should only take certain safe actions to protect everyone’s well-being in the school environment and not be responsible for minor disciplinary actions that can be handled by the school administration.

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  4. Latriece says:Understandable, schools are meant to be a safe place for children to learn and socialize. Police are the usual people to keep an environment safe in order and under control, but power is usually always abused. This is just a pathetic example of abuse of power and scare tactics. Arresting someone for spraying perfume is just ridiculous. At this very moment there is a city school under lockdown for someone bringing a gun to the school, and police are arresting a young girl for trying to make herself smell better. Can you say REALITY CHECK? Since the beginning of time authority always thought scaring people by giving an example of punishment in front of them would keep order and control amongst society and people. Sadly the examples are not always in the best interest of the person being taken advantage of and in the end both parties are pitied upon. Instead of having to assert authority among schools and students the government should consider actually taking the time out to really get to know their students and deal with the problems with them that may cause them to do something against the law. That’s why school is for learning and growing and not just yet for life experiences.

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    1. In response to Latrice : I have to disagree with you. schools are meant to be safe but arresting a child for throwing paper is just inexcusable. I can understand having a police in a school such as ours when things like threats and fights can happen. Understandable. i think this is more than just an abused power thing, but its very ignorant. The city, the police and the teachers must feel that this is the only way possible to keep things under control, but its not. they don't even need to get to know there students, as long as they are not threatening themselves or people/environment around them, there is no need for police at all.

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  5. Janiqua says: In response to the article I do not agree with police being able to arrest kids during school. This is one of the dumbest things that I ever heard or read. This isn’t fair to the kids. Its not fair because kids are getting fined or arrested for being kids. When you are a young child you are not mature and you do things that little kids do. It’s wrong for kids to be arrested during school because they are only being kids all kids do things when in school. Kids are not perfect, so every student is not going to be on time to class or not swear. It’s not right because you can get jail time or have to do community service as a consequence. That’s not right because they are being treated like criminals and all they did was be late to class, or where just being kids, or got into a little fight. Going to jail could mess up their life and stop them from succeeding in life or following their dreams, they shouldn’t have to deal with that just because they did something wrong in school. If that’s the case then everyone should be arrested because every child has either been late to school, or class, has got in a fight, or has shot a paper airplane during class, or made a noise in class. They are punishing kids for just being kids which doesn’t make sense at all what so ever.

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  6. Jessica Minllety

    In response to the article, I believe that police tend to overestimate their duties and exaggerate situations in which can be solve just by simply calling the child out. Most of these kids are influenced by their peers, and do not take part in misconduct, just to cause chaos in a class. The school districts in Texas seem to not place emphasis on the reason why kids are misbehaving. Kids who are teased because of their looks and disabilities often resort to violence to stop the laughter from the other kids. It seems that instead of keeping order in schools it causes the opposite reaction. These kids are being exposed to the criminal system early on. All they will see as a punishment is jail; they are not learning anything by being arrested. I do agree with the fact that kids nowadays are more common to use foul language towards adults and disrespect them. But most of these children have bad home lives and problems, that intervene with their education. Never should police refer to killing a student for refusing to get arrested or any form of disrespect. I think these officers and security guards are given too much freedom, therefore they take it into their n hands and hurt these kids.

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  7. Shaundrana Dean

    I think it's really stupid that a teacher would call the police on a child that is being teased and bullied. Instead of disciplining the children who are obviously don't have home training you would rather let the young lady Sarah Bustamantes get arrested for two squirts of perfume? it just makes no sense at all. This is why the younger generation are attempting to kill themselves over bullying. The police would rather worry about the little picture instead of the big one. I mean think about it these kids are getting arrested for the littlest things such as "throwing paper planes and failing to pick up crumbs from the canteen" at this rate no one is going to want to go to school. So in the end its only making it worse for children. The police needs to go do some real work and find the people who are killing, stealing etc. At this point in time the police are only making conditions worse for young people such as myself. I understand they are trying to make the world a "better place" but c'mon when is enough enough? No one likes the police and I don't blame them; if they were doing their jobs they wouldn't have this problem as much. Soon all authortity is going to be lost and the police are not going to be able to control what people do.

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  9. I personally find the whole idea of treating bad behavior in school as criminal offenses to be ridiculous. If the police are to monitor school behavior it should only be to break up fights and to ensure the safety of everyone. Putting purfume on in class is not something that should be worth an arrest. If you treat kids like criminals at an early age they will feel like criminals. Although I agree that kids behave worse than they did in previous generations, kids from all generations had their share of problems. Kids will be kids so it's the schools job to teach them and to cooperate with parents on behaior issues. If fines are given just for a childs bad behavior or mistake, that coul create financial problems for the family which isn't fair if the parent actually is trying to get their chil to do the right thing. If teahers took the easy ay out and called the police instead of investigating the issue, that is being unsupportive which isn't what the school environment is suppose to be about. Sarah Bustamantes was being bullied and sprayed perfume in an act of low self-esteem. If the teacher actually handled the problem themself they may have saw the bullying that was going on. Kids shoul not have their records stained and their innocence taken away at such an early age.

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    1. I agree with Newton. Police ofteb abuse their power and the youth are at the opposing end of the assault. Its wrong and disgusting, and the only way we will eve see change is to talk about it, blog about, write about, teach about, and all around just get it out there. The police won't change themselves we as a people have to work to change them.

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    2. I also agree with the Newt of Watts. :v Kids are at a stage where they still need to learn right from wrong. Punishments will certainly happen along the line, but arresting them for merely acting out once in a classroom is elevating "punishment" to "mentally scarring". Also, really agree on the Sarah bit at the end. the teacher should have seen that it was an act out of low self-esteem and should have told her to put it away, and maybe talked with her after class/sent her to a school counselor to talk, not just slap handcuffs on her for trying to make herself feel more confident.

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  10. Karis Perry

    I believe that this situation is complete ignorance and stupidity. To feel that you’re doing good and justice in arresting children 12 and under, just shows no common sense. These are low-level behavioral issues that children are getting punished for. The fact that elementary students are getting charged with disorderly behavior because of playground fights or for swearing is not necessary. “One teenage student was arrested and sent to court in Houston after he and his girlfriend poured milk on each other after they broke up”. This made me upset because there just being young. What right does and adult and the law have, to get involved with petty immature situations like this? No one should get arrested. Not even for bullying or being physical. It’s just no that serious enough to take that big of an action. Youth being arrested because of drug trafficking or carrying weapons is acceptable, but not because they decide that they want to cure or yell or throw a desk over. These “crimes” should not be allowed to follow them up until older age as well if their parents decide to ignore them. That’s just not right.

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  11. This is unacceptable; I do not think students should be punished for this. Every teen goes through high school with all their problems such as bullying, teasing, fights, etc. That’s just a part of life but as a student I would not want to go to jail for something that it’s hurting me. If I’m getting bullied about how I smell I don’t want to go to jail for spraying myself and knowing that if I do that people would stop bothering . Personally I could understand is the person that was hurting someone else would get in trouble not the victim. This hurts children’s future if they’re going to jail for disrupting class and this is going on there record forever they may not be able to get a job in the future because one day at school they threw a paper plane. Judges should not even waste their time with this law and give the children no type of punishment. Children do not deserve such harsh punishments; these punishments are for older people who commit murders and felonies. It’s just crazy how they treat their children in Texas. I know the parents said that they weren’t treated like this when they went to high school but if my child was treated like this I would go above beyond against the lawn to figure something out to make my child feel self and that there really not doing anything wrong

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  12. That is so stupid. Elementary kids should not get arrested for acting like kids are supposed to act. When i was in elementary school we did not even have sentries to keep the kids in line, they are children. I understand calling the police if a student has a weapon and is going to hurt someone but to have the police walking the halls and arresting kids and making them go to court for spraying perfume on themselves is just ridiculous. They should arrest the kids who were bullying her and calling her smelly for forcing her to spray the perfume. The police at these schools are just abusing their power and making big deals out of little things. A fine for yelling within 500ft from school is so dumb. People want the schools to be a safe place but having police everywhere is not making the schools any safer. Especially an elementary school with young kids who clearly are not hurting anyone by swearing or yelling. These things were once taken care of by a scolding by the teacher or a phone call home. Now these kids get tickets, community service, or even jail time. They are crazy.

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  13. The severity of the police involvement in these public schools is ridiculous. Children were being charged in court with offenses as silly as spraying two squirts of perfume. Teachers were calling the police to discipline young children instead of managing their own class. Disciplining children is part of a teacher's job and should not be passed off to police. In the case of Sarah, a young girl being bullied, who sprayed perfume to appease the perpetrators. Instead of the bullies being talked to, the victim was punished all the way to court. Children as young as ten are being charged in court. This will stay on their criminal record and will affect their opportunity to succeed in college or careers. Although this all seems ridiculous, it is easy to understand why parents, teachers, and the public craves this extra protection. After many acts of school violence, parents want their kids to be protected and safe. It's sad that this is how far we have to go to feel safe. The frustration is understandable but it should not be taken to this extreme. Texas should invest time and effort to finding an alternative way to deal with troublesome kids in a protective environment.

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  15. Keiosha Floyd say:


    With this article I feel that it’s unfair to give tickets to this young children, yes they should be disciplined if they do something that isn’t right or that’s against the rules but giving kids tickets is freaking crazy and overboard. I’m upset at the fact that the teacher called the police on a 12-year-old girl just for spraying some perfume on herself; she did that because the children were teasing her. I feel the teacher should of cracked down on the fact that the children were teasing her and taunting her but no she calls the police of the girl, I bet nothing happened to the kids who was calling her names and taunting her though, and what made it worse is that she was arrested because she was spraying some perfume. I also feel its uncalled for kids to be arrested for coming to school late and wearing inappropriate clothes and at the fact that they gave close to 300,000 “Class C misdemeanor” tickets to kids that was as young as six-years-old…Really? What is wrong with this school? And I’m surprised that some of these kids have to have lawyers because they have to go to court to try and the charges dropped. Whoever made this rule or law or whatever it is should be ashamed of their selves. I also can’t believe that the police station and the chief of police to allow this to happen. I’m also furious with the fact that parents are not protesting about this. What is this world coming to?

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  16. Shayla Sanders:

    Texas isn’t the only place that has police patrolling the halls. We here at SOTA also have a police officer here and she is ready to arrest anyone who fights, but I think that Texas has pushed this idea to an extreme. Children shouldn’t be charged for things like spraying perfume or swearing. These are things that can easily be prevented by a reminder from a teacher or a stern talk from the child’s parents, not a court date.
    I agree with Texas supreme court chief justice, Wallace Jefferson, “’charging kids with criminal offences for low-level behavioral issues’ is helping to drive many of them to a life in jail.” To be ten years old and already be accustomed to dealing with the state court system and spending time in jail seems to be damaging to a child’s psyche. If I were a parent I would be outraged that my child had to appear in court for swearing and I had to not only take time off of work to be there, but also pay a fine for the ticket they received, when I could have easily dealt with this problem at home under my own jurisdiction.
    Monitoring behavior in schools is very important because it can prevent the other children from learning but a state shouldn’t have the ability to put an elementary student behind bars for class C misdemeanors because this is also valuable instruction time they are missing out on.

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  17. Maddy says:

    Reading this article makes me feel speechless. Charging kids as young as the age of ten for minuscule crimes is ridiculous and insane. One girl Sarah sprayed perfume because kids were making fun of her smell and the teacher called the police. She was charged with a criminal misdemeanor and was ordered to appear in court. The teacher should have gotten over it and moved on with class. If a kid was to swear in class it should be handled with a warning. Other “crimes” like being late for class and spilling crumbs on the canteen floor is over the top. These actions should not be penalized because they are human mistakes. I feel bad for the parents of children that are charged with misdemeanor crimes because it causes stress and makes them look bad. When a child wants a job or applies to college, being charged for a dumb crime may hinder them from getting accepted. It is sad when a school has to go to this length to protect itself by charging a child with a pointless crime. Many members of the government like senator John Whitmire have tried to put a stop to this whole thing but was not successful. Eventually enough people will support Whitmire and end this nonsense.

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  18. This is just preposterous ! Children know right from wrong for the most part but putting them in jail, giving tickets, and being charged for lousy things is unacceptable. Now children should have consequences held for behavioral mishaps. Calling the parent, time-out whatever. Spraying perfume is not a crime, throwing paper is not a crime talking back is not a crime. It is wrong ( other than the perfume) but not a crime. If we as people and society start making things as small as that crimes, than what will become a serious crime? how will the of crimes and disobeying the law be measured. will running when the sign says seriouness"walk" make us appear in court? Will fighting someone gives us life in prison? putting ketchup on a burger when the customer asked for mustard enough to gives us and 50$ fine ? The Answer is NO! children will be children and do things that they are not supposed to do and say. This is not and excuse for them but there are other things that can be put in place other than getting the police involved. I myself have done things when a child and still to this day,some that i'm not to fond off but if I was thrown in jail I would Not have the opportunities that i have today and be able to have another chance at life. Children only learn right from wrong if you teach them the RIGHT way. Society and police have more things than worry about kids throwing paper and spraying perfume. murders robbery and other such things. If they are spending so much time at an elementary school, lord knows how much they are taking away from helping to better the community.

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    1. Shymel Hardy in response to Nyesha:

      I'm going to have to disagree with you. You say that throwing paper isn't a crime ... it's called littering! On the other hand, I agree with your response. Laws that are simply overlooked and broken daily are now becoming more serious. Although, most of us break them; we the people are still in the wrong ... WHICH SUCKS!The consequences students faced in the Texas schools are plain ol outlandish and actually make me upset but not surprised. Other penalties should be faced and this problem could be easily fixed.

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    2. I slightly disagree with Nyesha and agree with Shymel. Many of the crimes that the children broke are very petty but are still breaking the law. The punishments should't be so harsh but they have to learn somehow. The saying "children will be children" was used in Nyesha's response I agree with that to a certain extent. Children of a certain age are highly aware of what they do. So sometimes they need to be punished and saying they are just a child might give them the freedom to do as they please. I am not saying I agree with this law but Texas has to deal with it and it might discipline the kids better.

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  19. As the saying goes “kids will be kids”. I don’t believe in taking a child out of their childhood. It is perfectly normal for them to make mistakes and have some minor behavioral issues. As children, they like to push boundaries to see if they can get away with their mishaps. However, there are always consequences to their actions. For example, doing badly in school results in taking away privileges or a whooping. Usually if someone does something unlawfully such as vandalizing or parking in illegal spaces they will get fined and if the situation escalades to the point where the person being persecuted gets aggressive towards the police, the police has the right to arrest them. When a child sprays perfume to prevent being ridiculed and made fun the police is not justified nor do they have the right to arrest a child, especially since they are minors. I understand affirmative action and discipline but one’s consequences should equal their actions. Spraying perfume in class does not uniform to being taken out of the class and arrested. Is that really fair? No it is not and to say this is where our tax dollars are going… If a police officer arrests a little girl I should hope it was because she murdered her grandfather for not giving her cookies or something.

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  20. This article really helps open your eyes to the ignorance that some people and places have. Theres a lot of states and schools that are having problems with enforcing laws, but this is clearly the wrong way to do it. Taking small, childish behavior and creating a big deal out of it is not helping anyone, especially not the children. For one they will grow up hating school and not having any good memories because the police restricted every move they made. And who knows, by that time in Texas they may even have police roaming the halls and buildings of college, and that could even steer kids away from a higher education. The children in those schools could very easily grow up to hate the police department because of the awful treatment they received, which DEFINITELY won't help the youth crime rates. In the case of Sarah Bustamantes, who was arrested for spraying perfume on herself during class, I believe that was the worst thing to do for her. Instead of arresting the kids who were harassing her and really disrupting the class, the school and police fined this poor girl and sent her to court for trying to cover up her 'bad smell' that the others were teasing her about. This is unacceptable in my view, especially of that teacher who didn't even stick up for her and tell the police what really happened.

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    1. Olivia I completely agree with you, what the school system and police system is enforcing in Texas is absolutely unacceptable. It will effect every child who was arrested's future, with getting jobs, other education, everything. God forbid if that child ever is accused of something like murder or homicide and has to go to court, only to have a history of reports of "leaving crumbs on the floor" or "wearing perfume".

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  21. Marissa Santana

    I guess that half of our school would have already been arrested, these laws of arresting people just for spraying perfume. What happened to the teacher being able to give a verbal warning, then calling the parent and then finally they would get sent to the principals office. No in this state all they have to do is call the policy that is already on cite because we have policy at elementary schools too. Just to think that this little girl got arrested just because she put perfume on even though those kids were just making fun of the little girl. Did those kids have any consequences for making fun of the little girl?
    As in the article ,when Wallace Jefferson stated “charging kids with criminal offences for low-level behavioral issues” is helping to drive many of them to a life of jail.” they state that with these rules they are only setting up for these children to fail. They might just end up spending their life in and out of jail. For many students they will go and rebel against things that schools say for them to do and making such little things that might happen in the every day life at school be such a large consequence to them. Everyone in this school would have so many fines against them that they would not know what they were going to be able to do.

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  22. Adeline Ainsworth

    In the article, "The US schools with their own police", many situations of extensive action on innocent children are recollected.
    I find Sarah's experience especially horrifying;

    "The charge on the police docket was "disrupting class". But that's not how 12-year-old Sarah Bustamantes saw her arrest for spraying two bursts of perfume on her neck in class because other children were bullying her with taunts of "you smell"."

    this and the the "notorious" situation of the arrest on a girl for dropping crumbs on the floor of the cafeteria, have opened my eyes to how much of a police state texas is today and how much of a police country the US has become.
    This article reminds me of the stories I've heard about police brutality recently with protesters in the "Occupy" movement.
    It scares me not only for myself(approaching adulthood) but for our next generation. I would not be surprised if a revolution occurs soon. I hope it does.
    In our school we have police officers assigned but thankfully our teachers and police arent as reactive and ignorant on the issue of teen rebellion.
    I believe, yes we should keep misbehaving should not go unchecked, but to what extent? not the extent that this article describes.
    I wonder if the police have a say in what they are doing, or if they care for that matter. It almost seems heartless.
    police have a job, which is to protect us, not to harm us and keep the "children" in line.
    It seems to me that very soon, with what has been happening, we will have to fight back. It worries me.

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  23. everyone is going to look at this and say "alex y u no coherent???". then i am going to blame creative writing for not curbing my apparent "gift of gab"

    Overall, I think this is pretty ridiculous. Although, considering this is Texas we are referring too, I am not exactly shocked at how ridiculous this is. Regardless, I feel the process of taking legal action against young school children for simple misconduct is going a bit too far. Six year olds at that point in time have only recently claimed potty training as their greatest accomplishment. They will not understand what a ticket is, nor will they be expected to know what or how to deal with surviving a juvenile detention center (except that they may have to reclaim the potty training achievement...). Also, I feel that using “legal force” against those who are clearly disabled is even worse. When I read the part of the article that mentioned the boy with attention deficit disorder who tipped over their desk in a brief episode, and has been forced to sit in prison until he can meet the education and behavioral requirements imposed upon him, which is something he is unable to do, I felt like flipping over a desk myself.

    While there is validity to my generation being unruly in the current times, hasn’t every past generation gone through a similar stage before they finally grew up? I mean, clearly the substance abuse and gang violence of this generation are unacceptable in any scenario, but we are still in the process of learning. Just as our grandparents and ancestors further up the line have, we have to experience life to understand it and ourselves better. Minor troubles over a few behavioral problems in a class are certainly nothing to frown at, but do not warrant jail time either. In my opinion, the children should be subjected to what our parents received when they were in school, not some half-baked attempt to more or less “teach these youngins a lesson!”. A lesson, which I might add, not only ruins the futures of those it is affecting, but also one that leaves the actual murderers and others who commit heavy crimes relatively police free.

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    1. Response to ALEX B.









      Dear Alex,
      First off, the “gift of gab” addition was priceless! I laughed so hard! The rest of your blog entry was also pretty hilarious, but from one gab to another, boy… I really appreciated that bit!
      I agree with your point about every generation going through some period of childhood immaturity. Have you read A Clockwork Orange? I think the theme of the book fits in well with the points you have discussed.
      Oh! When you talked about criminals being relatively free with the lack of police, all I could think was, “I thought this country already had issues with jail space? So, why fill it with children?" Nice addition!
      Overall, I really enjoyed your blog post. You brought up some really interesting points. However, I think some Texans might be offended by the “being ridiculous" part. Some Texans just have different perspective, that's all… ;-P

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    2. p.s. If you care to look, I responded back to your response to me! I cleared the air on things that I might not have been very clear on. :)

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    4. nsert 's' after 'perspective' in last sentence...

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    5. insert 'i' in 'insert.' SIGH... One fail after another.... Well you get the point! ;)

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  24. Man! And we thought our administrators and officers were bad! (Don’t worry, I kid. I kid.) When I began reading this article, I thought this article was all just a hoax. After all, the whole thing sounded like some plot line from 1994, you know the whole BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU bit. I mean let’s be straight up, the girl’s last name was “Busta(-) mantes,” coincidence to last blog name topic much? But, I digress…
    I understand that teachers don’t need to take the crap of handling disruptive classroom behavior. All teachers deserve respect from their students, but we live in a world where this just isn’t the case. Teachers are teaching to elementary, middle, and high school students not adults! When you teach to these grade levels, you should expect to deal with some disruptive behavior now and again. Kids will be kids. While I think that the teachers in Texas, deserve to have some sort of system put into place to protect them, especially in really tough school districts, I think the measures currently taken and as discussed by the article are taking things too far. When it comes to trivial “behavioral crimes,” a good teacher knows how to protect themselves and step up to the authority plate. Whenever there is a small lash against the teacher, it is simply unnecessary to call the police. Relying on the police for trivial matters like these just shows a teacher’s lack of ability, responsibility, and overall cowardice and ineptness for dealing with the issues themselves. Teachers, please give yourself some more credit! Just look at the teachers during the real bonker eras, you’ve disciplined your children before, why not now?
    I would also like to add a little piece of geographical data into the mix… Where is Texas located? Near Mexico, right? For many people living in Border States to Texas, there is the constant “threat” of drug wars, and oh-my-gosh “illegal immigrants.” Like the Documentary “Bowling for Columbine,” Michael Moore might be on to something when he says that Americans are living in constant fear. Is this fear getting to our heads and stopping our common sense? The article also didn’t bring up the accused children’s ethnicities (except the one kid whose last name was Gonzalez, and who correct me if I’m wrong, am inferring to be Hispanic). Could these rigid policies be a reflection of racism and prejudice for people with disabilities? I don’t know the population of children being convicted and accused so I can’t say for certain, but SOMEBODY should investigate that issue a little deeper.
    The next idea might be a little radical, but one might also see this as power struggle, to keep teachers in fear, and use the police system as a way of enforcing laws to keep those on top, top. If these procedures are law, whose to argue against them?
    Lastly, while I’ve talked a lot about the teachers, government, and police, the real subject here boils down to the children. Locking up children in jail, accusing them of petty crimes, etc. does nothing to protect our future. We are creating future problems for ourselves, damaging a child’s innocence, physiological, and mental well-being, all of which will create MORE CRIME for our country down the road. A child learns how to behave from growing up in the environment and society they live, so how will the future look if we are teaching our children to act this way? The article also said that many of these children have serious mental disabilities, so we are not helping these children by locking them up behind bars. And, what about education? Do you really think a student is getting a good education, if the child is locked up behind bars for the majority of their years? No-Natta-Nip!
    While I understand that everything I said is extremely biased and not qualified, I have yet to see good solid evidence given to support all of this. If it exists, can someone let me know? I’d love to hear what you/they have to say…

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    1. damn skippy (Also sorry if that came off sarcastic, that is supposed to be shorthand for "damn straight" or other variants and aaaaa shutting up now :C )

      Anyway, I agree with what you said Big Brother atmosphere that the article is painting these schools out to be. And in the fact that some of these teachers are beginning to really too much on police tactics to try and square out behavior that isn't very serious. There's also the matter that while there ARE some highly dangerous threats posed to teachers and students alike with incidents such as Columbine or Virginia Tech, those instances are so rare to actually happen. Not to mention, there are usually a fair amount of warning signs to point out that "oh this kid is a killer call da popo". Which is another problem with this system itself -- it SHOULD be obvious who the actual dangers are, and who the mere class clowns are. I think that maybe if they were to focus on that, then maybe they'd see that police involvement at this extent is unnecessary?

      Also, agreeing with the possible racist undertones. I don't want to generalize a certain area and come off offensive to natives from there, but the South does seem more ethnocentric than the North. Probably one of the more relevant examples would be Arizona and the immigration law in recent times. I believe that you are right in that the reporters should take a more in-depth look on that point, as clearly there is a pattern with the police being used against Hispanic and disabled individuals in the classroom.

      On the more "radical" part, I can't say i see the teachers as being fearful? I mean, a good majority of the adults in the article were dissuaded from such use, but it was clear that the ones who DID call the police had every intention to (and to keep doing it). It seemed like these teachers were, in effect, the Big Brother of these schools, and the students come across as the public at large.

      Also I pretty much said the same thing here so i can't really comment on it, haha, but overall I agree.

      tl;dr version: Agreed. :v

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  26. This article very clearly demonstrates why I made such a big deal about fnishing high school in New York and not going to Texas until I am considered an adult - at least then I can only be charged in court for ACTUAL CRIMES! There is not one adult on Earth who has never, ever talked in class, or dropped crumbs on the floor! This is the most absurd actions I've heard of in the U.S. in quite a long time. I actually wondered several times throughout the article if it was even real, or if Dolly concocted this up just to get us going. Beyond the initial ridiculousness of criminally punishing honest childhood mistakes there is the serious issue of how damaging this could be to a child developmentally. Overly restrictive - to the point of punishing children for being children, or even human and capable of making mistakes- rules and punishments can cause problems with the way children and adolescents perceive authority and social norms. This can obviously cause said youth to develop depression, or even more serious cognitive or personality disorders such as phobia, oppositional defiant disorder or antisocial personality disorder- one of the most common diagnoses of serial killers! This goes beyond being strict, and even beyond treating children like common criminals. It's actually breeding a generation of socially handicapped people who are could potentially become more dangerous than anyone could have wanted. I air on the side of shaking your finger at a kid and telling what's right and wrong.

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  27. WOW this article is beyond outrageous. To take a child and place them in prison over something as simple as maybe dropping a piece of paper on the floor or spraying perfume is pretty ridiculous to me. I see people in school committing these "crimes" everyday and if they arrested them for it... well lets just say they wouldn't have anyone left to teach. This punishment is cruel and unusual, there was a point in time when all you had to do was simply make a phone call home or give a warning and that was enough. 12-year-old Sarah Bustamantes was arrested for spraying perfume on her neck in class because other children were bullying her with taunts of "you smell". Is this really a crime ? children deal with being teased everyday and instead of helping her you arrest this poor innocent girl and tell her the one being teased that she was disrupting the class. Call me crazy but i feel its insane. Your not thinking about the child's future and how you could have just ruined it. She was the victim but yet she's being looked at as the criminal. As you lay in your bed at night you should say to yourself "i had the chance to enjoy my childhood , how dare i take away someone else's".

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    1. Elexus I also agree with you, if we were to have this system going on in our school, we'd all be in jail. There would be no school left, and everyone has a right to do all the things that the police are arresting them for. This is the United States, aren't we supposed to be free? The punishment level definitely needs to be brought down in this school, who wouldn't rather have a phone call home from a teacher than a phone call from their kid in jail waiting for them to bail them out?

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  29. Chelse C.
    A child spraying two bursts of perfume on herself to prevent rude comments from her classmates and instead of the teacher telling the classmates to stop messing with her, the teacher calls the police on girl who sprayed the perfume. What has the Texas school system come to? That is just flat out stupid on so many levels. In Texas, hundreds of students, not a couple but hundreds, have appeared in court for offences such as swearing, and misbehaving on the school bus and some students have been arrested for cigarette possession, wearing “inappropriate” clothing and even being late to school. I’m thanking God right now that I don’t live in Texas because all the times that I’ve been late to school this school year and the previous school years, I would’ve been in jail for a long time. There are people in a lot of places that are robbing stores, killing people, disturbing the peace of a community, participating in domestic violence and instead of putting your time and effort in into finding those people and stopping the crime you’re going to arrest a student s for the silliest things. Texas supreme court justice, Wallace Jefferson, has warned people stating that “Charging kids with criminal offences for low-level behavioral issues is helping to drive many of them to a life in jail” and I couldn’t agree more. These charges will be on their records and it’ll be hard for them to try and start a life for themselves. This whole “zero-tolerance” policy that Texas has is way over the top and needs to be stopped.

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  30. Okay laws such as the ones down in Texas should be sent up to new York state in some regions. Down in texas yes I do feel like they are setting those children up for failure in a way, why charge them with little things that their parent do not even punish them for. By these kids having to deal with these do called "charges" affects every aspects of them. The state of Texas wants the best for those students,how are they going to when they have a record by the age of 10. Yes I do agree public, private even schools in different countries should have a form of police or "authority" there just got a sense of protection. Now in this Day in age we are always hearing about bullying and how people handle it such as suicide crimes and other negative things. Well don't you feel like the government are bullying these kids.

    Think about it.

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  31. This seems a bit excessive and unnecessary. I can understand why schools may want an officer on site for safety issues that can’t be handled by the teachers, administrators, or sentries but the school staff should be able to handle disciplinary problems and if they can’t or don’t want to then the parents should be involved. The police should not feel the need to intervene with what goes on inside the school outside of criminal activity and keeping students safe. Disrupting a class is not criminal activity and if the teacher cannot handle the situation then the parents should brought in to deal with their unruly child. The problem, more than likely, starts at home. If the child is rude in public they are more than likely rude in private and if the parents aren’t being respected then it’s doubtful the child will respect anyone else.
    (I only want to briefly touch on the police and use of force issue because I have honestly had my fill of that discussion)
    the police almost never need to use force except for extreme cases such as a weapon present or a violent riot. Most of the cases where force was used in this article were surrounded by circumstances that did not require it.

    -Darnell

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  32. Amanda Crespo said:
    “Fulmore Middle has its own police force with officers in uniform who carry guns to keep order in the canteens, playgrounds and lessons. Sarah was taken from class, charged with a criminal misdemeanor and ordered to appear in court.” Sarah was being bullied, but authorities do not focus on that fact. She was spraying perfume to avoid the rude comments coming from her classmates. Is that a new Crime? All teachers deserve respect in their classroom however if it is a simple child behavior, its simple send them out of the classroom. The Principals office should be enough! What is the need to bring authorities to a school full of elementary children? "We've taken childhood behaviour and made it criminal," said Kady Simpkins, a lawyer who represented Sarah Bustamantes. "They're kids. Disruption of class? The problem is Schools have become lazy on trying to respond to normal child behavior. The school can potentially ruin a child’s future by sending them to authorities for pity things. Imagine the impact these pity things can have on a child’s record. These kinds of things can affect Job applications and even college applications. I believe the Texas school districts should just stop being lazy and handle their child behavior!

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  33. Carlos Feliciano
    Honestly I'm shocked that these children are being arrested in such large amounts and for essentially doing what many average kids do. I understand discipline and i can tell that these laws are meant to keep these kids in check in a way, but honestly arrest for throwing paper planes and failing to pick up crumbs is unnecessary. Honestly even arrest is too far, i feel there is a much better way to have the kids behave themselves without the threat of being arrested or in some cases almost attacked by police. This can also greatly effect their futures greatly. Most of these kids will have "criminal" record from a very young age, its sad that ones entire life can be ruined at ten years old because they were arrested for shouting.

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  34. Brianna Corbitt

    When people discipline children they often fear the idea of being too lax and they obviously don’t want to let them get away with everything. At the same time, “kids will be kids” and they should not be punished like an adult. In the article, it mentions that in Texas the age of criminal responsibility is ten. Obviously a ten year old is not an infant; he should take some responsibilities for his actions. Criminal responsibility for spraying some perfume or not cleaning a few crumbs off of their table is ludicrous. I’m sure that the authorities are trying to avoid future crimes from happening with harsher punishments. Without ruining their permanent record, officers can still punish them with more age appropriate punishments. I agree with the lawyer Kady Simpkins who said, “we have taken child behavior and made it criminal.” It’s not a crime to be a kid, just like it’s not a crime to show some immaturity at young ages. It should not be expected for a child to act like an adult and make all the wise decisions would. With time and growth comes experience, but this will not come at the age of ten! When I was ten, I was struggling with learning cursive. I wouldn’t have made it in Texas with their rules and expectations.

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  35. I find that this article is much like the previous one, that is, the government starting with good intentions but going a little too far with them. In the article about name banning it began as preventing people naming their children ridiculous names such as 'Sex Fruit' but ended up banning quite normal names such as 'Justice'. In this article the government simply wanted to prevent gang violence and bad behavior but ended up issuing citations and court dates for nothing more than childhood behavior. Fear can drive people to do drastic things and in this case tragedies, such as the Columbine shooting in 1999, fueled this fear that disaster could strike anywhere at any time, even at school. I disagree with the stance that this article is taking, it amplifies the extremes of the system and gives relatively no merit to the good it has done. I can sympathize with both sides of the issue. On one side, children and their families who have gotten severe punishment for generally innocent acts of childishness are frustrated by the government's callousness. On the other side, the government is frustrated by the rise of unruly children and the demand by parents for schools to be safe places. There seems to be a paradox in this situation because when parents cry out for safer schools, the government ups the amount of security and gives stricter punishments, then parents cry out for less strictness. I think that there must be a happy medium between security and freedom.

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  36. Wade Walker

    See, now this is ridiculous. Why would someone arrest a high school student for putting on perfume, or throwing paper airplanes? And also, why would you arrest or ticket very young kids. See what I don’t get is why these schools are being so radical. It makes no sense for high school students to receive this kind of torment. I mean they’re already dealing with puberty. Isn’t that enough for them to deal with already. Just throw a girl on her period in jail, what do you get? A crazy, psychotic girl who can’t control her emotions and feelings. It’s just weird for the police to be like this. I just don’t understand why some school systems treat their students like this. It’s way too radical.

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    1. Damn never thought I say it....but i agree with Wade. Stupid police doing stupid stuff to kids abusing their power and bullying children now look what you've pushed me to..agreeing with Wade. I say we petition and get all involved fired.

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  37. From Brennan Reaves
    As a student, I think it is ridiculous that the police are not only arresting kids as young as 10 or 11 up to 18 for the clothes they wear or yelling out ot a teacher. It seems that eventually every kid would be arrested and fined. When you are in high school, illegal activity is just not ok, whether in public or private schools. But to arrest kids for mouthing off or for what they wear, like with Sarah Bustamente does not make sense. Maybe though it is not excessive to arrest kids for fighting in school, because this same behavior would get them arrested outside of school.

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    1. I agree with Brennan. Some of the " Crimes " they are saying the children are committing are just crazy .Being judged on what you wear is normal as a society we can't change that but being arrested for it is just going to far. I think that you should be charged with other things as fighting and illegal activity only if you are in highschool because you are totally aware of what you are doing.

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  38. This is completely outrageous. This law doesn’t allow kids to be kids. Sure kids should know right from wrong and should be penalized for their mistakes, but putting them in jail or even giving them a fine for making common mistakes is just idiotic. Its like your telling a kid from a young age "you have to be perfect, our you will go to jail. “There is not one adult that can say that they did not mess up (behaviorally) when they were children. That’s just what they do. I think this is just an overreaction to the crime rate raising. Now can you honestly tell me that calling the police on a girl who sprayed perfume on her neck is going to reduce crime? NO! A phone call home in that situation is too extreme so what makes it ok for teacher to call the police. They need to get rid of this law immediately because this is just going to start kids off getting used to the inside of a jail cell, instead of the inside of the classroom. This law is taking punishing kids to a whole other level. This makes me appreciate or disciplinary system even more.

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  39. From Calvin.

    I feel like these arrest are totally uncalled for and are completely ridiculous, for them to arrest kids for being kids. If the police would’ve started this years ago there would be so many great people in this world arrested for what they have done years ago when they were younger. Arresting kids that are as young as 10 years old that is just not right, I can understand they’re trying to discipline these young children but I feel as though they’re taking it too far. Arresting kids for spraying perfume or not cleaning up crumbs off of a table deserves a criminal record? That’s completely ludicrous. I feel like if the police are trying to discipline these kids and punish them for their actions they can do it in a different way other than ruining the kid permanent record. I feel like they’re making it a crime for being a kid, of course a kid is going to show some immaturity you can’t aspect them to act like adults that’s just not possible. I feel like they’re jeopardizing the kid future taking actions like that as far as arresting a kid could hurt a kid chance at getting into a college or a job.

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    1. Shymel Hardy in response to Calvin:

      I agree with your response and I have similar feelings and thoughts. However, your statement "If the police would’ve started this years ago there would be so many great people in this world arrested for what they have done years ago when they were younger" doesn't sit too well with me only because, they did start this years ago, people were arrested for there actions and it only made those great people stronger. People like Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks faced similar penalties the kids in Texas did but, they didn't stop fighting for what they believed in. Since this isn't a history class I'm going to stop with that thought because I can go on for days! The actions police officers have taken in Texas are ridiculous and uncalled for. These children are experiencing brutality when other disciplinary procedures can be taken place.

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  40. Police agencies have long provided services to schools. It has only been in the past two decades, however, that assigning police officers to schools on a full-time basis has become a widespread practice. An estimated one-third of all offices and almost half of all municipal police departments assign nearly 50 officers to serve in schools. Moreover, nearly half of all public schools have assigned police officers. These officers are commonly referred to as school resource officers or education resource officers. They are intended to serve various roles: safety expert and law enforcer, problem solver and liaison to community resources, and educator. Assigning officers to schools is becoming increasingly popular. RPD’s programs have been encouraged through federal funding support to local jurisdictions. As the trend toward having police in schools grows, it is important to understand when and how assigning police officers to schools can be an appropriate strategy for schools and police agencies. In the school setting, problem solving involves coordinated efforts among administrators, teachers, students, parents, mental health professionals, and community-based stakeholders. RPD’s frequently assist in resolving problems that are not necessarily law violations, such as bullying or disorderly behavior, but which are nonetheless safety issues that can result in or contribute to criminal incidents. Helping resolve these problems frequently requires the officer to act as a resource liaison, referring students to professional services within both the school (guidance counselors, social workers) and the community (youth and family service organizations). In particular, RPD’s often build relationships with juvenile justice counselors, who are responsible for supervising delinquent youths, connecting them with needed services, and recommending diversionary activities.

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    1. So you're saying that the police are suppose to be like a support system in our schools? I didnt know that. It seems like the one at our school (i dont know her name) just pops up whenever there's a fight and arrests someone or comes when someone is found smuggling drugs into school, another good reason to arrest someone. But I never thought she gave personal advice or anything. I wonder if Texas' police department had the same philosophy as RPD because the officers described in the article dont seem to be acting as friendly liaisons to the community.

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  41. In response to Niqua
    -JaQuana says
    I completely agree with you. Not one kid is perfect or ever will be. We are supposed to teach children right from wrong. By fining them or sending them to jail they are being severely disciplined for what is in their nature. No one is going to be perfect; therefore we mess up from time to time. Spraying perfume is nothing compared to killing someone. I think police officers need to worry more about major crimes, as oppose to a child breaking a school rule. By having more than one or two police officers in a school, that less people on the field to patrol and catch the bad guys (or girls).

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  42. Asia Vanderveen


    In response to the article, the police are charging under age children, for being children. World-wide its a common for high schools to have police officers to protect the students. However, Kids in Texas are getting arrested and tried for simple things such as putting on perfume and simple swearing. Abusing the position of authority, belittling children for basically doing nothing. Police should focus on fighting and bullying, more physical things. I do not think that all police are crooked but the majority tend to taunt kids and arrest them for petty reasons because they don't have anything thing else better to do. I also think police officers feel superior because of their guns. I think its ridiculous for someone to get arrested for cursing, when there is bigger fish to fry out there, real criminals killing, bullying and robbing banks. In this article the the police response to arresting the young girl who sprayed perfume on herself as "enforcing the law"? What law? To smell good? Meanwhile there were bullies taunting her? Maybe they where on the bullies side, because they are bullies also.

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  43. In response to Calvin:
    I agree with the decision you made, I dont think any child should be treated this way in schools. Children should act like children and not get in that much trouble for it . There supposed to learn right from wrong so they understnd the difference between oputtin them in jail and charging them with these misdemeanor thats going to be on there record for life ! Never going to be able to come off. I just cannot believe that they would actually try this in Texas . I hope this never gets up to NYS becasue id it does SOTA is in trouble ! ( jk)

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  44. Maddy says:

    In response to Elexus: This article is definitely outrageous. Putting a child in jail for spraying perfume of dropping a piece of paper is way out of line. Elexus said, “I see people in school committing these “crimes” everyday.” If we were to have these laws in our schools we would not have anyone left. Actions like a warning, phone call home, or a visit to the principal is enough of a punishment. There is no need to charge people of a crime. Ruining a child’s future is unfair especially since the people enforcing this law were not treated this way in school.

    In response to Helene: I agree, this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. Instead of putting more police enforcement in schools for the dumbest crimes, they should focus on the real crimes like murder and robbery. Putting a kid in jail at the age of seventeen ruins their future indefinitely. Jail is for dangerous people, not the people who spray perfume or come late to school. This law is way to harsh and they need to ease up. Helene said, “if this was such a successful way to handle students then why doesn’t every state abide by it?” This is a good point because New York state schools are perfectly fine without enforcing these rules, why does Texas?

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  45. I agree with asia's response, because she understood exactly how I felt about the article along with many others. At least its good that police officers aren't sitting on their back side eating doughnuts and drinking coffee, but now they are beginning to do entirely too much. Why would you arrest a 10 year old for cursing. People have to have some moral values and KNOW that was highly uncalled for. Police need to sit back and evaluate, because they might could make more of a difference than the citizens can.

    (my other response, was a response to leah's comment on my first response.)

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  46. JeneƩ Skinner
    It’s a cycle from the household to the streets to school to any other given place, violence is given and received by the ‘good guys’ as well as the ‘bad guys’. The irrational strictness of many Texan police in schools is depleting the will of kids to be kids. This is not to say that misbehavior should be accepted, but there are many ways to discipline and teach children. All kids are different; some need more aggressive care than others because they do have learning disabilities and /or lack of structure and support at home.

    For the kids who do struggle to learn and understand what’s going on, there should be people (teachers, counselors, administrators) to help them find their way. For the strong-willed kids who disregard the rules and respect for others (esp. their elders), force is necessary at times because it’s all they understand. However where law enforcement messes up is when they blatantly and discriminately commit acts of violence against these students to prove a point. Though I believe in the saying “Spare the rod, spoil the child”, there has to be support and foundation, not just hardcore violence. I also believe that “it takes a village to raise a child” because many parents aren’t able to mentally and emotionally provide for their kids by themselves (esp. when parents can’t provide that stability for themselves).

    Unfortunately, this is not the world we live in. Many feel that it isn’t their responsibility to do a parent’s job and the kid, whether good or bad, is left to the consequences of the world. The older the child gets, the harder it is to enforce principles such as discipline and moral restraint.

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  47. By Shanelle Clark, Texas is far beyond OUT OF CONTROL. No six year old should ever be fined for things children do all the time in school. They are taking the fun out of school and childhood. What child could possibly enjoy school while having to think that they could be ticketed at any minute. Are the children even learning? How could one concentrate on education while having to focus on their behavior and everything they say? This also makes things a lot more challenging for parents. Parents have to worry about paying fines or that their child may not have a bright future because they may have a terrible record before finishing high school. What college would like a student with a record since the age ten? If tickets aren't documented for six year olds, why do they receive them? Do the teachers focus on reporting the children or teaching?

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  48. In response to Thomas, I agree for the most part. Just about everything the government does has a downside. Half of the laws we have now are because of problems from prior laws. I think some rules don't have enough discussion before being approved or aren't very well thought out. They go by what they think should be done and not the effect in te long run. I do think this rule should be adjusted though. I don't think six year olds should be ticketed for their actions. They're entirely too young to worry about being ticketed by the police.

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  49. I feel that students being arrested for spraying perfume in a classroom, should not to lead to them being arrested and charged with misdemeanors. If anything, the young boys who teased her about the way she smelled which caused her to spray the perfume, should have been charged with something. I feel the police working in Texas schools are abusing their authority and arresting students for minor things that a simple disciplinary action the principal would solve. I agree with officers patrolling the halls of a high school because a lot of the students are old enough to go to prison so it would make sense that if they do something illegal on school grounds they could be caught. Middle schools would depend on the behavior of students, if it is severely necessary. But officers working in elementary schools and arresting children up to 6 years of age for shooting paper air planes and breaking other class room rules is absurd. I think police officers should use more common sense when it comes to charging students on school property and breaking rules.

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    1. I agree. Having police officers in high schools makes sense. Many of us are considered adults in the eyes of the judicial system so if we misbehave it can be punishable by law but elementary schools should not have police patrolling the halls. Taking away recess is punishment enough.

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  50. To JaQuana's response:
    I totally agree to your reesponse to the article. I specifically like your opinion about the govenrment just being "money hungry". I don't believe that's the case in this situation however, but I could understand why people would think so. If individuals were responsible for paying for their education straight to the board, they would not make it so easy for students to be arrested and kicked out of school.

    To Tatiana's response:
    I agree with your response. In mine, I talked about police using more thought processing before they give a student a ticket for something minor in school. Your response tells the specific details police officers should consider before giving the student a consequence. But still, police shouldn't be at the school without reason, if the school has had repeats of students breaking school rules.

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  51. A lot of what was said in the article about what’s going on in the schools was simply unnecessary. It seems to me that most of the adults in this situation could be saving a lot of this wasted time by actually teaching the kids, and setting the goal of raising the graduation rate rather than trying to imprison children for actions that would seem pleasant compared to the way that a lot of adults carry themselves. I’m not saying that disrupting class or ruff housing on the playground should be deemed okay but it should definitely not be taken to court, especially when we have real cases to take to court. In this situation it seems like the ones to blame are the adults because if some of the teachers would take some initiative and set rules for their own classrooms outside of calling the police every time a child does something they don’t like than police wouldn’t even need to get involved. Yes there should be some form of security at the schools for times where teachers can’t control the students and things get out of hand, but not for every little instance of disruption or disrespect.

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  52. Kamille said...The things these kids are getting charged with are just ridiculous. No matter what kids will still disrupt class somehow and if the teacher is a good teacher they should be able to handle it. One of your jobs as a teacher is to be able to discipline the children you are given. If a child yelling or talking when asked to stop is hard for you to deal with then maybe you should take a different route. Calling the police is a waste of your time, the child’s time, and the officer’s time.
    Children who do get these tickets are going to get older and go off to college. I find it very unfair for a child not being able to apply for financial aid or getting denied to a college. All because they dropped crumbs on the table from a snack cake in the 2nd grade and it’s on their record. The way the officers handle the kids are even worst. It is crazy enough that you are arresting them for petty things but to have the nerve to break an arm or kill someone is just uncalled for. These young kids are our future and if we want them to succeed we can’t send them to prison for things they did when they were 12.

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  53. I cannot help but compare what I read in this news story to the experience in our own high school. It would seem to me that the entire purpose of police being in schools is for the students and teachers protection. Then why is it that there are so many instances of police causing more harm than they are preventing? Is it just selective publishing? Are we just not hearing about the guns, explosives, and other weapons being confiscated? What about the heroic actions of police forces that save entire classrooms and/or schools from threats? At the school I attend I don't see or hear anything about police brutality against students... and I wonder why that is. Another thought that came into my head while I was reading this was that I seem to remember a little while ago how “spanking” your child was considered “physical abuse”. Is it really okay to arrest a girl who sprayed a little perfume without giving her an indication of the consequences, but not okay to slap a little kid on the butt if he does something wrong? There's a little bit of a difference there, and maybe this is just my personal opinion, but I would rather the latter of the two. It might sting for a second, but when you go to apply to college or for a job, you are not going to be asked if you have been physically punished as a little kid.

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    1. In response to Matthew: I completely agree. Arresting kids for small crimes is just idiotic in my opinion. Your view on selective publishing is very interesting. We really don’t hear anything about police brutality in our schools and I wonder why too! Having received numerous whoopings/spankings in my life I really love your point about how you would rather be spanked than arrested. I feel as though spankings are what made who I am today, as weird as that may sound. I needed that, especially being the bad kid I was growing up.

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  54. Shymel Hardy

    I am slightly disturbed by the events explained in this article but, I am the least bit of surprised. Growing up in Rochester, I see similar occasions take place on a daily bases. However, the events I have witnessed are not as tragic or bogus as the ones in the article. Reading that students were arrested for showing up late to school makes me upset but yet thankful because there have been times that I was late and luckily I haven’t been arrested yet. Having children detained for saying “in your culo”, throwing paper airplanes, spraying perfume or simply acting as a child is utterly bizarre. Consequences like suspension or receiving a referral are far less detrimental but, can be more effective than being arrested. Having police in schools for security is a great idea and should be enforced more often. On the other hand, when the police act in manors as such; it simply becomes out of hand and just wrong. The article reads, “We’ve taken childhood behavior and made it criminal” (Kady Simpkins). This statement is definitely agreeable. Children are human and therefore they are bound to make mistakes. Although, some of these mistakes may be wrong, some of them are simply innocent. There should be other consequences faced that don’t always involve brutal law enforcement. Police officers need to exercise a little bit more common sense …

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  55. First off I would like to say that I have not heard of anything like this before. Students getting arrested for their misbehaviors at first sounded like a great idea to me. I thought that students need to take responsibilities for their actions and face the consciences. Students like to have fun but don’t know where to cross the line. As I kept on reading I saw that the students, even the ones from elementary, were getting arrested over nothing. One girl got arrested for putting perfume on in class and the teacher happened to not like it. All she was trying to do was stop the mocking of the other students. I thought this was absurd. How was the State of Texas allowing this to happen? This is causing too much ruckus for minor things. Students are now afraid that anything that they will do will have them arrested, put to jail and have on their permanent record. The fear that these children are having seems to be awful. I do agree that there must be police officers in school to help with fights among the students, but to have them just to arrest these children over nothing is ludicrous.

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    1. In response to LeeAna: I agree with the fact that this law’s intentions are fine but are just going about it the wrong way. Kids do need to be punished for their actions and need to understand what is wrong and what is right. On the other hand, arresting kids for petty crimes just seemed a bit much. Anytime a elementary student has to be arrested, that should raise a red flag. I never thought about the fear those kids must be experiencing until you said it. I know that if I was in their situation I would be scared to even use the bathroom without a bathroom pass.

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  56. Reading this article has my mouth gaping wide open in astonishment... I believe that it is utterly ridiculous to arrest a child for spraying perfume on herself, or break a girl's arm for not picking up the crumbs of a cake she dropped. By the way, whatever happened to the children that were bullying poor little Sarah Bustamantes huh? Shouldn't they have been arrested as well, for disrupting class? For a girl with her kind of disorders spraying perfume on herself is nothing compared to the actions others have taken in the past for being bullied. In a way though, it is not surprising that stuff like this goes on in our schools. America is a country that was built on fear and violence after all. Canada has a much lower murder rate, not because they have fewer guns, in fact they probably have more, they are a country of hunters. It has nothing to do with what they watch or what they play, they love horror and slasher flicks, and playing Modern Warfare 3. The difference between them and us is what they watch on the news, every morning. Turn on the T.V. and all you see on the news is stories about the latest murder, the latest rape, the latest politician to cheat on his wife with his maid, and honestly it's just disgusting to watch. There is no doubt that everyday, we are constantly pumped with fear. And now we are trying to create peace within our communities by pumping the new generation of children with fear and locking them up for “crimes”. It should be a known fact that a peace built upon fear, is not peace at all, and now the children suffering for a peace that would never last anyways. I mean whatever happened to the wag of the finger, or the harsh scolding. Heck, even the old days of using the paddle was a better solution than this; ruining a child's entire future for a simple behavioral mistake. I had a teacher in the forth grade literally holler at the top of his lungs and call me a punk in front of the class. Yeah it hurt, but I never disrespected him or acted up in his class again. Teachers should take responsibility for their class and a child's behavior, and if that's too hard for them, than they shouldn't have taken the job. A teacher's job is to teach not only on their subjects, but also about the consequences of bad choices, and how to be overall better people. However the kind of consequences that these children receive is out of line. The punishment for a crime should fit with the crime committed, and they are sending children to jail for bad behavior, which is just ridiculous. A cashiers job is to collect the consumers money, serve the consumer and wear a big smile for the consumer, the point being, if they show up to work with a bad attitude and talk back to the customer, then most likely they will be out a job. Any body that has a job that's core purpose is dealing with others, adult or child, they should know how to deal with them in a logical, concise, and respectful manner. Clearly these teachers don't know how to deal with children and are relying on the authority and intimidation of the police to keep order, which in my eyes is not doing their job right. The police and the courts are not doing their job correctly either, sending children to jail for nothing and instilling upon families, some of them poor, the financial burden of ridiculous tickets. - Roberto Rivera

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  57. I personally feel that no schools around the country should be arresting young children for doing harmless things during class. Reading that a young girl got arrested just because she sprayed herself with perfume in class in ridiculous. Because of this, young children in different states are now facing consequences for something that should not be taken that serious. Parents should really be concerned with whats going on in the school that their child attends. The police are causing these young children to have a bad record for something that shouldn't even be considered a crime. According to the First Amendment in the Constitution, spraying perfume is something we as "people" have the right to do. Why should a child of that age have to hire a lawyer over something so harmless?

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